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I was just thinking. What artists do you know who cover others' songs and that's it for you, the once, or all the time, the song become "theirs" and you don't care for the original any more (as much or at all)?

It happens every time I hear a Johnny Cash's cover.

And it also happened recently when I heard Philip Quast sing Charles Aznavour's Happy Anniversary. I knew that song, but I only realized they were one and the same after I went looking for the lyrics, the performance was so different.


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Любопытно, а есть исполнители, которые для вас "крадут" чужие песни? Слышите, как они их исполняют, и всё, оригинал уже не тот, или не совсем тот.

Все, или почти все исполненнные Джонни Кэшем песни мне нравятся больше оригиналов.

А недавно услышала, как Филип Кост поёт песню Шарля Азнавура "Happy Anniversary" ("С юбилеем") и не узнала её совсем, хотя раньше не раз слышала, - пока не стала искать текст, настолько по-другому она у него звучит.

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miraizo
Oct. 13th, 2016 02:28 am (UTC)
У меня такое было с очень многими каверами из сериала Glee. Правда, многие песни я впервые услышала в сериале, а потом только нашла оригинал.
kehlen_crow
Oct. 13th, 2016 04:48 am (UTC)
Здорово :-) .

А ещё любопытно, потому что отдельные тексты песен для Гли писал Стивен Сондхайм, тот самый, про которого в объявлении про спектакль, который я еду смотреть, назвали одним из его создателей.
majesticarky
Oct. 13th, 2016 01:42 pm (UTC)
I bet you'd prefer Johnny Cash's cover to Depeche's Personal Jesus. In which case, I'm not sure we can be friends anymore!!!!! :p

There are a lot of covers I like better. Too many to mention... I was kind of thinking about this last night actually. A few months ago Tom informed me that one of my favorite Pet Shop Boys song was actually a cover of a Willie Nelson song. I have never liked Willie Nelson (These days he's more well known for his politics rather than his music anyway), so it's clear which version I like better : )



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The PSB music vid is incredibly zany and has nothing to do with the song really, but hey, it was the 80s and that was commonplace.



Edited at 2016-10-13 01:44 pm (UTC)
kehlen_crow
Oct. 13th, 2016 02:31 pm (UTC)
I have heard Johnny Cash's cover first, so it was more likely I would like it better (often the case, first heard, like more). I did not know it was a Depeche Mode song then (you have just taught me that :) ), but I have heard the original, and you're right. I find it less deep. Probably because of the "unnecessary" musical gimmicks, maybe because of the way they sing it.

I just listened to both again, and the original sounds like they don't call about Jesus, but someone who acts like a teacher maybe, and there is also something off about that, like maybe its sarcastic, like it's a young punk who is not entirely into it. And Johnny Cash is really singing about Jesus. It's like an entirely different angle. The same words but DM sing in like in the 1st person and he makes it more like 3d.


I watched both versions of your favourite song, and it's a much more difficult choice. I'd say it's more personal to WN but it sounds better when PSB sing it.
majesticarky
Oct. 13th, 2016 02:48 pm (UTC)
Lol. Well... you have to consider that Depeche is a New Wave band and what you consider to be gimmicks are part of the genre. The reason why Depeche has always been my second most favorite band is because they are very deep for a New Wave Band. This is part of the reason that I'd argue they are quite possibly the most successful band ever to come out of that genre.

Their lyrics have always been very deep with the exception of their first major album. Speak and Spell was super dorky early New Wave that had little substance to it (still an album I love). Then, their lead lyricist, Vince Clark, abruptly left the band later to join Erasure and Yazoo, but the lyrics were taken over by Martin Gore who became very well known for his substance. You actually don't see that much in the New Wave genre... Thanks to Martin, the band is considered to be rather dark in general, kind of brooding, and very talented. Most of their songs kind of have a dark undertone. Personal Jesus wasn't really about Jesus, it was about being a Jesus-like figure to someone who idolizes you. Martin said it had to do with the relationship between Priscilla and Elvis Presley (he was her personal Jesus) I could analyze Depeche for hours, they are truly that deep XD. I won't bore you with that, though.

My dad is a huge fan of Johnny Cash so I've listened to a lot of his music. Not really my thing, but his cover is ok, just way different. I mostly like his silly and upbeat songs the best. When he does the more somber music, it's very off-putting for me.
kehlen_crow
Oct. 13th, 2016 03:06 pm (UTC)
I actually felt some of what you described about DM's inspiration, so you analysis of it was very interesting to me.

But I agree completely that if the depth hadn't been there, JC couldn't have told what he wanted to tell by this song.


I love all of Cash, but yes, the somber songs generally better than the upbeat ones (even though Grandfather's Clock and Six Feet High and Rising are my favourites, too). Especially the last two American Albums, at least one of which was post mortem.


And it's funny actually, how I discovered him. It was by looking up the original of a song's cover. Joe Dassin had "Un garçon nommé Suzy" made out of "A Boy Named Sue", I listened to the second one on a whim and was gone, after that one song and the first I listened that was a "new" Cash one to me, The Blue Train :-).
st_martin_a
Oct. 13th, 2016 03:12 pm (UTC)
I didn't realize it was a Willie Nelson song. Thought Elvis did the original. I preferred the Pet Shop Boys too.
majesticarky
Oct. 13th, 2016 04:42 pm (UTC)
Turns out we're both wrong XD. This is the "original", by Gwen McCrae and Brenda Lee in 1972 :

Gwen's version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj90zb8CAJQ

Brenda's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHKNk2He7vc

Brenda's version is super traditional country. Gwen's is actually quite nice.

Maybe it's one of those songs that is really hard to keep track of who did the original because the covers have always been so much more famous. It reminds me of The Animals' House of the Rising Sun because even though many people attribute the original to Nina Simone or even Bob Dylan, it's a folk song that can't actually be attributed to anyone... it's kind of a mystery where it came from.

Always on my Mind wasn't written by Gwen or Brenda, but the two of them popularized it in 1972, although also that same year Elvis was the one to make it a hit. The Willie Nelson version received a grammy 10 years later...
st_martin_a
Oct. 14th, 2016 04:32 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of Brenda Lee but I like her voice. The Gwen McCrae one I couldn't load up.
I didn't realise that about House of the Rising Sun either... what a great song it is too...
st_martin_a
Oct. 13th, 2016 03:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, Johnny Cash makes anything sound awesome.
A strange one for me was the Pet Shop Boys version of Elvis' Always On My Mind. For some reason, I prefer their cheap synth pop version. : )
(Anonymous)
Nov. 3rd, 2016 03:49 pm (UTC)
The first thing that springs to my mind is yet another synth pop classics - "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell (originally sung by Gloria Jones). The British guys have made it their own.

As far as Depeche Mode goes, Martin Gore has released two albums of cover versions and some of these songs are so good in their own right that I don't even feel like listening to their originals ).

Mariya
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